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Дабы сделать обсуждение более конструктивным, выделю ключевые, по моему мнению, моменты кейса:
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P.S. Если архитекторы и менеджеры принимавшие решения были контракторами, надеюсь у них хватит страховки чтобы покрыть такую серьезную ошибку.
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За это сообщение автора поблагодарили: Vadik (1). |
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Направильно я понял. В исходной статье говорится именно о внешних клиентах компании. Их классифицировали как named users и заставили заплатить по полной. Несмотря на сомнения судьи, взыскано было по £9,400 за пользователя. Ибо у SAP не оказалось "облегченных" лицензий.
Это реально жесть. Выглядит как полномасштабная война с Salesforce и прочими third party. И вовсе не уверен что из этой войны sap сможет выйти без ощутимых потерь рынка.
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7. From about 2011/2012, Diageo developed and introduced to its business two new software systems, "Gen2" and "Connect", using a platform provided by Salesforce.com, a competitor of SAP. Gen2 is an application which manages the operations of Diageo sales and service representatives, enabling them to manage their customer visits and calls, and to record information obtained during those visits and calls. Connect enables customers to manage their business accounts with Diageo, and to place and review orders directly, rather than through call centres.
8. SAP's case is that the Gen2 and Connect systems use and/or access the mySAP ERP software directly or indirectly. As a result, SAP is entitled to additional licence and maintenance fees in the sum of £54,503,578 under the Agreement or as damages. Further, SAP seeks a mandatory injunction requiring Diageo to permit SAP reasonable access to the mySAP ERP software so as to verify usage by Diageo and for an account of any additional licence and maintenance fees payable. 13. The introduction in the Agreement provides: "A. SAP wishes to grant to the Customer, and the Customer wishes to accept, a licence to use certain software on the terms set out in this Agreement. The usage authorised by this Agreement is set out in the Exhibit; this may increase over time by means of further Exhibits being signed. B This licence will enable the Customer to permit both use of the software by Group Companies and Outsource Providers and access to it by Supply Chain Third Parties on certain conditions. C The licence fees are calculated on the basis of: user fees; fees for supplementary software products and database fees…" 14. "Supply Chain Third Party" is defined in clause 1.1 as: "a third party that requires access to the Software in connection with the operation of the business of the Customer and/or its Group Companies (e.g. business customers, companies with whom Customer has alliances or business arrangements, distributors and suppliers)." Цитата:
75. SAP's case is that the Connect system is entirely dependent on mySAP ERP. The above interactions constitute use or access to mySAP ERP directly or indirectly. The users of Connect should be licensed as Named Users. The relevant Named User Category as set out in the Schedule is Professional User.
76. Diageo's case is that the interactions that occur indirectly between users of the Connect system and mySAP ERP do not amount to use of, or access to, the mySAP ERP software, as Professional Users or any Named Users. The interactions between the customers in Connect and mySAP ERP are in essence the same as they were when those same users obtained their account information and placed orders through the call centres. 86. SAP submits that Connect customers fall within the definition of Supply Chain Third Parties because they are Diageo's business customers. 89. In my judgment, there is no applicable Named User category for the Connect customers in the current version of the Schedule. They do not have access to source or object code. They do not have access to the functionality provided by mySAP ERP in support of the wider operation of Diageo's business. They access business process functions and information from the database for the purpose of ordering products and managing their own personal accounts only. 91. In summary, usage by Connect customers is not authorised usage under the Agreement. SAP is entitled to additional licence and maintenance fees, the level of such fees to be assessed in the quantum phase of the trial, if not agreed, by reference to the nature and extent of the usage and SAP's price list. |
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За это сообщение автора поблагодарили: mazzy (2), macklakov (3), Vadik (1). |
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